The most common question we hear is also the most reasonable one: "I have my DNA file — but where do I get Global25 coordinates?"
Until today, the answer was a detour. Official Global25 coordinates come from exactly one place — the independent Eurogenes Global25 service — so you had to download your raw file, order your coordinates there yourself, wait for the row, then come back and paste it. Every step of that is still a fine route, and our guide walks it end to end.
As of today you can also skip the detour.
Upload your file, and we handle the rest#
Start a Global25 analysis and choose Upload raw file instead of pasting coordinates. Hand us the raw data export you already have from 23andMe, AncestryDNA, MyHeritage, FamilyTreeDNA, Living DNA or a similar company — the same file, no new test.
With your explicit consent — asked plainly at checkout, never assumed and never pre-ticked — we pass your file securely to the official Global25 provider, who produces your personal coordinates by hand, typically within a few days depending on their queue. The moment they arrive, your full analysis runs automatically: ranked distances, admixture models and an individual-sample PCA across six eras, and your report is emailed to you.
The service costs €15 on top of the €29.99 analysis — a pass-through of the provider's own per-kit fee, which exists whichever route you take.
What you upload#
The input is the standard autosomal raw-data export from a consumer array test: 23andMe, AncestryDNA, MyHeritage, FamilyTreeDNA, Living DNA and similar companies all provide one, as a .txt, .zip or .gz up to 50 MB. Upload it exactly as the vendor delivered it; there is no need to unzip, rename or convert it. A whole-genome VCF is not accepted on this route, and an unreadable, truncated or edited file is refused at checkout, before any payment. If you are unsure what your export contains, the free raw DNA file check reads it and tells you, per product, whether it can be used.
What "official" means, and why converted rows are refused#
A Global25 coordinate is only official if it was projected onto the Global25 reference space by the service that owns that space. The reference set is private to its author, so no other party, Ancestrify included, can place a new genome into it. Everything else in circulation is one of two substitutes: a row computed by some other site in a space of its own making, or a row converted from another calculator's percentages. Both are shaped like a coordinate; neither is one.
This matters because every downstream number inherits the row. Distances, admixture fits and PCA positions are arithmetic over those 25 values, so a simulated row produces clean-looking results that describe the conversion rather than the genome, and typically drifts from the real position by more than the distances being measured. That is why the order form takes either a pasted row or a raw file, never a row from a converter, and why the free authenticity check exists: it reads the numeric fingerprint of any pasted row and flags the simulated, converted and rounded ones. When we obtain coordinates for you, the row you receive is the same official projection you would have received ordering directly.
The coordinates are the real thing, and they're yours#
Three points we want to be unmissably clear on, because this niche is full of shortcuts that aren't what they claim:
- We never compute coordinates ourselves. Nobody but the Global25 service can. What you receive is the same official row enthusiasts order directly — not a simulation, not a conversion from another calculator's output.
- The row is yours to keep. It appears in your report, and you can reuse it anywhere Global25 coordinates are accepted — including every one of our free G25 tools, and any future order, where pasting it costs nothing extra.
- Your file moves only with your consent. The disclosure to the provider is a separate, explicit checkbox at checkout, distinct from the consent that covers our own processing. Unticked, the order simply cannot be placed.
And if you already have your coordinate row? Nothing changes: paste it as always and your analysis starts straight away at €29.99.
While your coordinates are pending#
After checkout the order does not sit in a queue of ours; it waits for the provider. The order moves into an awaiting-coordinates state that you can see on your dashboard, and it stays there until the official row arrives. Nothing is computed in the meantime, because there is nothing yet to compute from. The provider produces coordinates by hand, their site states 2 to 7 days, and in practice it is typically a few days depending on their queue; that figure is theirs rather than a promise of ours. You do not need to check back: the moment the row is recorded against your order the full analysis runs automatically, and we email you when the report is ready.
How the row is delivered and reused#
Your coordinate row is shown in your report, so you can copy it. From then on it behaves like any Global25 row obtained any other way. Paste it into the free distance calculator, admixture calculator or PCA viewer, or into a later Global25 order, where pasting costs nothing extra. The €15 covers obtaining the coordinates once, for the order that bought them; it is never charged again for the same row.
The two routes side by side#
| Do it yourself | Coordinates done for you | |
|---|---|---|
| Where the row comes from | The independent Eurogenes G25 Requests portal | The same portal, with the request placed by us |
| What you handle | Download, upload to the portal, payment, waiting, then pasting the row into an order | Upload the raw file once at checkout and consent to the disclosure |
| Cost of the row | €15 per kit, as stated on their site | +€15 on the €29.99 analysis, a pass-through of the same fee |
| Wait | Their site states 2 to 7 days | The same provider, so the same kind of wait; the analysis runs the moment the row arrives |
| Your data | You send the file to the portal yourself | Your file is shared with the provider only after your explicit checkout consent |
| What you end up with | The official scaled and unscaled rows | The official row, shown in your report, plus the full six-era analysis |
Both routes end at the same service and produce the same row. The concierge option exists for people who would rather not manage the detour, not because it produces anything different.
Frequently asked questions#
Can Ancestrify compute my coordinates directly from the file?#
No, and nobody except the Global25 service can. We never compute coordinates ourselves. What we do is place the request with the official provider on your behalf and run your analysis when the row comes back.
What if the provider cannot process my file?#
We check the file before charging you, so most problems are caught at checkout. In the rare case the provider cannot process a file that passed our checks, the order is refunded.
Do I get the scaled or the unscaled row?#
The provider issues both forms. Our analysis works from the scaled row, which is the one shown in your report. Keep whichever form you copy labelled, and never compare a scaled row against an unscaled panel.
Can I buy the coordinates without the analysis?#
No. The add-on is part of a Global25 order rather than a standalone product: you receive the coordinates and the complete analysis together. Once you have the row, every free tool on the site accepts it at no cost.
The full details — both routes, which files work, what happens to your data — live on how to get your Global25 coordinates.
